Pastor Koh case getting curiouser and curiouser
Many link pastor’s case to someone in gov’t, says Gerakan’s Yong
Quigonbond: We knew this day was coming. The government may not be responsible for Pastor Raymond Koh’s abduction.
But knowing how trigger happy they can be with the sedition law and other criminal laws, and knowing how little they cared when their sycophants are spewing religious and racially-charged poison into Malaysian atmosphere over the last four years, and most recently for again using the Chinese bogeyman to scare rural Malays, they are morally culpable for bringing about this state of affairs, just like they are morally culpable for certain interviewees falling off MACC (Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission) buildings, a certain murder victim being blown up, the many deaths in police custody, litigant’s and police’s defiance of civil court order, and for a public prosecutor being murdered.
It’s a culture of lawlessness brought about by a government of few that is above the law. It can only get worse if we stick to the current course.
JayWai: We should step up and have more open discussion on Pastor Koh’s abduction to add pressure on the authorities and the governing bodies. We cannot allow the country to sink to lower levels of lawlessness and thuggery.
The abduction was swift, bold and with precision. And as Amanah leader Mujahid Yusof Rawa mentioned, if there is indeed evidence against Pastor Koh, then go ahead and charge him.
Hplooi: It would be a dereliction of duty for any politician with conscience not to speak up and/or to be seen at the peaceful vigil in the face of allegedly official stonewalling and a severe rationing of information in regards Pastor Koh’s case.
What is even more significant (in case people do not remember) is the disappearance of Pastor Joshua Hilmy (apparently in November 2016). Are the cases of Joshua and Koh linked?
Worldly Wise: Gerakan’s Andy Yong should be expelled from Gerakan for saying such a preposterous thing if our government is sincere in finding the abductors.
The government is in an awkward situation. Everybody can remember that the IGP (inspector-general of police) refused to arrest an abductor in the Indira Gandhi case although the High Court judge ordered him to do so.
MCA, Gerakan, MIC, and junior partner PPP – all parties in the coalition representing or purporting to represent non-Muslims – ought to withdraw from BN.
650214: I think the police need to act faster on this case. But I disagree with Gerakan speculating on the culprit (that linked the pastor’s case to someone in the government). The family is already in a dilemma over this.
Odin Tajué: No charges were ever preferred against Pastor Koh for the utterly simple reason that Hasan Ali, who led the Jais (Selangor Islamic Religious Department) team of some 20 to 30 that raided the church on the night of Aug 3, 2011, had fabricated his so-called evidence.
And that evidence could stand no scrutiny whatsoever. He also cooked up all sorts of stories to put Christians in a bad light.
Two of his many false claims was that when he was Selangor executive councillor, he received at least 60 reports of apostasy, that Muslims were enticed with money and given gifts of laptops, cameras, cars, monthly food provisions and devices such as solar-powered bibles.
One asks, why then has none of those supposed apostates been named and charged by Jais?
At his house in the afternoon of April 2, 2012, Hasan showed a 42-minute long video to journalists. The video purported to show a couple who had been duped into embracing Christianity, had repented, and returned to Islam.
The man, supposed to be the husband, had been coached to say that those Christians, some of whom were Caucasians, wore skullcaps and the jubah, and went to mosques in an attempt to get close to Muslims.
That was how they slowly infiltrated the Muslim community. When they first approached Muslims, they did not use the Bible but the Quran. He said many other things besides those.
The confession and revelation were obviously staged. The names of the supposed couple were never revealed, and their faces were not shown. Among the many who have pointed out the incredulity of the video was the Islamic Renaissance Front.
Hasan produced another video also designed to incriminate Christians soon after that first one. The screening of the second one, if there was any, did not even make the news. This is just one example of how some Muslims in Malaysia have cooked up stories in the hope to incriminate Christians.
And they all have been hopelessly incompetent storytellers. Until today, not one single Christian has been charged for proselytising to Muslims. And no wonder.
Sleepy: Until proven wrong, the conclusion/rumours looks logical to me because the abduction was conducted in broad daylight and carried out with military precision, there was no ransom demand, the abductee was a pastor and not the first, and there is CCTV evidence.
IGP: Police working on three leads in missing pastor case
Worldly Wise: Usually pastors have little wealth. They live on support from church groups. Since he is a ‘pastor’ intent on spreading the word, the first line of investigation should be on possible Islamic groups.
The public is worried. Candlelight vigils could have been on the assumption that the captors will be moved by it.
Anonymous 637541435986091: I am not an investigator but common sense tells me that it:
1) Cannot be personal (not with the way the abduction was carried out).
2) Not vengeful as they can just shoot or stab him.
3) Has to be done by a group since it was well-orchestrated.
4) Cannot be for ransom as the pastor is not Jho Low.
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